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George Ford?

Post by Lutontiger » Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:42 pm

Did anyone else see Mike Averis's comment in today's Guardian re Peter Stringer coaching at Bath: "Peter Stringer is delighted to have two proteges to mentor at Bath...First there is Tom Heathcote...and coming shortly George Ford."

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Re: George Ford?

Post by h's dad » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:00 pm

Lutontiger wrote:Did anyone else see Mike Averis's comment in today's Guardian re Peter Stringer coaching at Bath: "Peter Stringer is delighted to have two proteges to mentor at Bath...First there is Tom Heathcote...and coming shortly George Ford."
Excuse my ignorance but a scrum half mentoring fly halves? Does that really work?
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Re: George Ford?

Post by sapajo » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:07 pm

h's dad wrote:
Lutontiger wrote:Did anyone else see Mike Averis's comment in today's Guardian re Peter Stringer coaching at Bath: "Peter Stringer is delighted to have two proteges to mentor at Bath...First there is Tom Heathcote...and coming shortly George Ford."
Excuse my ignorance but a scrum half mentoring fly halves? Does that really work?
I think mentoring in this context is not position related. Stringer is probably acting as a mentor because he is an experienced senior professional.
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Re: George Ford?

Post by Smudge » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:47 pm

It's no secret, despite no official comment, we have lost him.
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Re: George Ford?

Post by h's dad » Sat Apr 13, 2013 6:02 pm

sapajo wrote:
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Lutontiger wrote:Did anyone else see Mike Averis's comment in today's Guardian re Peter Stringer coaching at Bath: "Peter Stringer is delighted to have two proteges to mentor at Bath...First there is Tom Heathcote...and coming shortly George Ford."
Excuse my ignorance but a scrum half mentoring fly halves? Does that really work?
I think mentoring in this context is not position related. Stringer is probably acting as a mentor because he is an experienced senior professional.
Thanks. I thought genuine interchangeability was fairly rare but just thought I’d ask. I still find it difficult to understand why some LH's absolutely can't play TH and vice versa.
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Re: George Ford?

Post by sapajo » Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:28 pm

Thanks. I thought genuine interchangeability was fairly rare but just thought I’d ask. I still find it difficult to understand why some LH's absolutely can't play TH and vice versa.

I am no expert but from what I have read TH and LH each require different and specific skill sets.
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Re: George Ford?

Post by The Boy Dave » Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:39 pm

Thanks. I thought genuine interchangeability was fairly rare but just thought I’d ask. I still find it difficult to understand why some LH's absolutely can't play TH and vice versa.

I am no expert but from what I have read TH and LH each require different and specific skill sets
This is somthing I do know a little bit about!
TH is alot harder work then LH as you are taking weight on both shoulders. You would think that a TH could easily move to LH but it can be difficult for some right handed players as they can struggle to keep their balance and bind to opponenets with their weaker left side. Similarly for a LH sometimes they struggle to bind at TH if they are left handed. There are all kind's of little obstacles that most players find difficult when switching sides. Getting both right is very rare!
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Re: George Ford?

Post by sapajo » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:45 pm

The Boy Dave wrote:
Thanks. I thought genuine interchangeability was fairly rare but just thought I’d ask. I still find it difficult to understand why some LH's absolutely can't play TH and vice versa.

I am no expert but from what I have read TH and LH each require different and specific skill sets
This is somthing I do know a little bit about!
TH is alot harder work then LH as you are taking weight on both shoulders. You would think that a TH could easily move to LH but it can be difficult for some right handed players as they can struggle to keep their balance and bind to opponenets with their weaker left side. Similarly for a LH sometimes they struggle to bind at TH if they are left handed. There are all kind's of little obstacles that most players find difficult when switching sides. Getting both right is very rare!

Thank you for your valuable insight :smt023
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Re: George Ford?

Post by mol2 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:21 pm

I have felt for some time Ford should consider switching to scrum half as I just don't think he's big enough to play fly half at the highest level.

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Re: George Ford?

Post by h's dad » Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:52 pm

sapajo wrote:
The Boy Dave wrote:This is somthing I do know a little bit about!
TH is alot harder work then LH as you are taking weight on both shoulders. You would think that a TH could easily move to LH but it can be difficult for some right handed players as they can struggle to keep their balance and bind to opponenets with their weaker left side. Similarly for a LH sometimes they struggle to bind at TH if they are left handed. There are all kind's of little obstacles that most players find difficult when switching sides. Getting both right is very rare!

Thank you for your valuable insight :smt023
Seconded – thank you.

But is all right if I keep telling them all they have to do is bend over and push?
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Re: George Ford?

Post by sapajo » Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:51 pm

h's dad wrote:
sapajo wrote:
The Boy Dave wrote:This is somthing I do know a little bit about!
TH is alot harder work then LH as you are taking weight on both shoulders. You would think that a TH could easily move to LH but it can be difficult for some right handed players as they can struggle to keep their balance and bind to opponenets with their weaker left side. Similarly for a LH sometimes they struggle to bind at TH if they are left handed. There are all kind's of little obstacles that most players find difficult when switching sides. Getting both right is very rare!

Thank you for your valuable insight :smt023
Seconded – thank you.

But is all right if I keep telling them all they have to do is bend over and push?
Good idea but I will be right behind you when you tell them :smt002
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Re: George Ford?

Post by 4071 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:24 pm

mol2 wrote:I have felt for some time Ford should consider switching to scrum half as I just don't think he's big enough to play fly half at the highest level.
Just like Aaron Cruden.



Sorry... I mean Rugby World Cup winning All Black Aaron Cruden....

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Re: George Ford?

Post by mol2 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:42 am

Not sure that Ford has shown the level of ability such, that if he was a Kiwi, that would single him out as a future All Black?
As yet he's not shown enough to look like a first choice for Tigers of the future.

There's a mix between physicality and skill - the less size the more skill you need.

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Re: George Ford?

Post by 4071 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:56 am

mol2 wrote:Not sure that Ford has shown the level of ability such, that if he was a Kiwi, that would single him out as a future All Black?
As yet he's not shown enough to look like a first choice for Tigers of the future.

There's a mix between physicality and skill - the less size the more skill you need.
This would be the same George Ford who was the youngest-ever winner of the World Junior Play of the Year award?

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Re: George Ford?

Post by Cardiff Tig » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:11 am

4071 wrote:
This would be the same George Ford who was the youngest-ever winner of the World Junior Play of the Year award?
There have been a few winners of this award that haven't really turned out to be stars though and haven't been capped for their senior side.

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