Was Hartley up to old (and distasteful) trick? - now cited!!
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Hawkins is at least as good as Hartley. Tom Youngs is a good player, unfortunately his line out throws are still a bit wayward.
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Rob Webber?longlivethecrumbie wrote:Why are we not surprised?! Thank God it's the end of the tournament and we don't have to suffer the hooker from Wasps (whose name escapes me) and his horrificly misfiring throws into the lineout
I thought David Paice of the NotNots (Aussie but qualified through residency I believe) was supposed to be the 'next big thing'? Whatever happened to him in the reckoning? Although I'd prefer an 'Englishman', born and bred or of English heritage/parentage etc rather than another import.
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Indeed. If it did happen then both sides have some questions to answer.jgriffin wrote:Remember there are two sides to a nibble - the nibble and the question of what the finger was doing in the mouth (Mealamu).
I could be getting mixed up but I'm pretty sure Cockerill claimed in his autobiography that he'd bitten an opposing hooker's finger when it was being driven into his eye socket at the bottom of a ruck.
I am surprised by all the fuss from the Irish over it - last season I remember numerous Irish posters on the Guardian and Telegraph message boards dismissing an Ulster player biting Hartley on the grounds gumguards stopped any injury from occuring, so biting in rugby wasn't an offence worth worrying about. Perhaps it is more serious when it is alleged to have been done to an Irish player than when it happens to an non-Irish player?
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Tom Youngs will be competing for the English starting shirt, if not the incumbent by the 2015 world cup
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That's the bloke. His throws in warm up were at least 6 yards off straight and they got no better during the game. Those on the terrace kept reminding him of it each time he had a lineout on our side.WhitecapTiger wrote:Rob Webber?
I thought David Paice of the NotNots (Aussie but qualified through residency I believe) was supposed to be the 'next big thing'? Whatever happened to him in the reckoning? Although I'd prefer an 'Englishman', born and bred or of English heritage/parentage etc rather than another import.
Any money on that 'youngster' Steve Thompson making yet another remarkable comeback?
As for Paice, I'd completely forgotten about him.
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If anyone managed to bite Ferris they did well as he spent 95% of the game in Crofty's back pocket
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Purely out of interest.....if Hartley did this and is found guilty and punished, how will this reflect on the Lancaster regime? How on Earth could he pick players capable of such indiscipline etc surely he'd be driven out of the job
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Purely out of interest.....if Hartley did this and is found guilty and punished, how will this reflect on the Lancaster regime? How on Earth could he pick players capable of such indiscipline etc surely he'd be driven out of the job
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WhitecapTiger wrote:Purely out of interest.....if Hartley did this and is found guilty and punished, how will this reflect on the Lancaster regime? How on Earth could he pick players capable of such indiscipline etc surely he'd be driven out of the job
According to the Gospel according to St Lancaster he would have to be banished to the nether regions!!
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I'm suprised no one has mentioned Jamie George of saracens he looks like a class player
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They have an England qualified player who wasn't born in South Africa?!Mr Bean wrote:I'm suprised no one has mentioned Jamie George of saracens he looks like a class player
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They do have some good quality young english players the likes of jackson wray, george kruis, james short, jamie george and the current england number 10longlivethecrumbie wrote:They have an England qualified player who wasn't born in South Africa?!Mr Bean wrote:I'm suprised no one has mentioned Jamie George of saracens he looks like a class player
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That's a fair point Mr Bean. Forgot about Jamie George, and he does look a fair shout.Mr Bean wrote:I'm suprised no one has mentioned Jamie George of saracens he looks like a class player
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Yes but how much has he actually played? He's behind Schalk Brits and possibly Smit too now. You can't tout him for England if he's not playing club rugby. It would be like England having a match next weekend and saying Tom Youngs should be picked. Maybe Jamie George will be in the frame soon, but I would suggest that unless he starts playing regular first team rugby over the next two months he won't be ready for South Africa.Mr Bean wrote:I'm suprised no one has mentioned Jamie George of saracens he looks like a class player
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I have had a quick peek at the sarries website and according to there website this season Jamie George has had more appearences than Schalk BritsTigerAlex wrote:Yes but how much has he actually played? He's behind Schalk Brits and possibly Smit too now. You can't tout him for England if he's not playing club rugby. It would be like England having a match next weekend and saying Tom Youngs should be picked. Maybe Jamie George will be in the frame soon, but I would suggest that unless he starts playing regular first team rugby over the next two months he won't be ready for South Africa.Mr Bean wrote:I'm suprised no one has mentioned Jamie George of saracens he looks like a class player