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The Tackle

Post by Sherpa2 » Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:50 pm

I have been thinking about the way we have started to miss or fall off tackles and I wonder if it is because, while the technique for making a good tackle hasn't changed, what you have to do afterward to avoid giving away a penalty has.

Could this mean that instead of it being the intuitive action it once was, players now pause for a split second to consider their actions post tackle, and this tiny delay is enough to impact the effectiveness of the tackle itself.

Of course all teams will be affected by this but maybe Tigers, with their mix of young guns trying to make a name for themselves and old heads trying to lead the way with keeping the penalty count down, have suffered more than most?

As I say just a thought but I would be interested in other peoples take on it.
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Re: The Tackle

Post by Kinoulton » Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:13 pm

Certainly I think the decisions given in the ruck that follows a tackle at the breakdown are causing confusion.

I've seen tackled players pinged for not releasing the ball, yet when all the fatties start heaving themselves off the floor, you can clearly see that the tackled player had his arms wrapped.

Similarly, you can see that when a player is tackled, quite often his team mates belly-flop on top of the two protagonists, hence the tackler has little or no chance of releasing and rolling away.

I think if referees want to clamp down on the tackler and the tackled, then they need to be very strict with those arriving at the breakdown who must stay on their feet and not smother everyone.
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Re: The Tackle

Post by DickyP » Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:25 pm

Not to mention the fact that if you let go too soon the Ref shouts 'not held' so you can't win!
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Re: The Tackle

Post by Ads677 » Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:54 pm

Alternatively, the tackled player could hold onto the ball and play it back to a team-mate until, say, 6 such tackles have occurred and then the other team could be given the same chances, etc. Should make it all so much more entertaining :smt002

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Re: The Tackle

Post by bwightman » Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:23 am

The Tackle? It's a mythical creature, isn't it?

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Re: The Tackle

Post by mightymouse » Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:49 am

ever since the messed with the orginal perfectly good law it has been a mess

the orginal law - as soon as a player is tackled both talked player and talcker mut release the ball immediatly
there is no abiguity in this
now all of the above happens - and the worst of all - tackler makes the tackle and relaese and the devil gets up and runs off - next time he holds on to him he is pinged for not releasing - ablsolute nonsense

I am back onto mt old theme - bring back every law of the game as it was in 1970 and it will be a better game by far.

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Re: The Tackle

Post by Kinoulton » Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:14 pm

I think also that the current interpretation of the laws make it far too tempting for the side in possession to keep taking the contact and recycling the ball, rather than doing any running and passing.

If players are big enough and good enough (most of them are) they are perfectly capable of running deliberately into a tackle, falling the right way so that they can present the ball neatly back to their teammates, and repeat as above ad infinitum with very little chance of a turnover.

This is fine, but what's the point of having these endless rucks if one side is just making up the numbers and has no realistic chance of getting at the egg?
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Re: The Tackle

Post by mightymouse » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:31 pm

I think if memory serves me correctly that law was already changed by 1970 but I do agree with you on that, I would not like to see that.

I have to agree with Kinoulton about the continuous recyle without allowing anyone to compete - it is dull in the extreme - it is like a worse form of Rugby league - at least in that game the other folk get a crack at it after 6 goes!

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