jgriffin wrote:iceman_19 wrote:I'm suprised that so many experienced posters, who's opinions I normally find to be very informed, have gone with the knee-jerk reaction of "sack Cockerill".
There are a few points here:
1) If we had won, would you be calling for his head? No. We didn't turn up in one match and lost. 2 kickable penalties missed, as the difference between having a job and being sacked? Get real. If we had won, you would be calling it a good season and issuing hearty pats on the back all round - this season has been a mixed bag of tricks, but plenty of good points to take forward.
2) Going on from above, it's how we move on from here. Evolution or revolution? I believe the best way is to take the lessons from this season and apply them next year, rather than replacing key individuals which may change the entire attitude of the team.
3) If we did bring in a new coach, it couldn't just be anyone. Leicester are at their best when we have one of our own leading (Richards, Howard, and even now, Cockers). We don't function with imports (Meyer, Loffreda). Name me someone who understands the Tigers culture who would be qualified to take over and take Tigers forwards. The only two names that spring to mind are Richards and Back, and I can't see them being here any time soon.
Stick with Cockers, let's evolve and move on. If lessons aren't learnt, then that is the time for knife sharpening.
1 - not one game, but most parts of most games, most of which I went to.
2 - If you haven't got the individuals or you won't use them then nothing will make much difference - not sure of the exact point being made, since almost all of the players have been involved for two years or more. Lessons have not been learnt.
3 - things change. and tigers' culture involves having sharp backs and a world-class 7, none of which we have at present.
Why can't real pinpoint constructive RUGBY criticism be met with like, rather than 'real fan, trust cockers, stop moaning, who cares' drool. If the above poster could please EXACTLY say what 'evolve' means in terms of back play for instance, then the debate would be progressive instead of bottomly circular.
Get off your high horse. I am not one of these " the sun is shining, I'm a 'real fan' so I don't do constructive criticism" wimps. I am pointing out the fact that if this one game had been won, if Toby had nudged over 2 kicks, then you would not be calling for his head.
Evolve for me, since you ask, is to look at our coaching set-up in the backs - my suggestion would be to bring in someone in an advisory role who can throw fresh ideas in the mix.
Evolving is to look at some of our young talent and ensure they get more game time - as they haven't done this year.
Evolving is to look at key areas, like you mentioned, and either start blooding players (e.g. Everard) or make it a priority area for signing.
I can tell you what won't work - and that is the sacking of a coach who has delivered a hell of a lot more than his 2 predecessors (and in difficult circumstances) and expecting an outsider to glue all the pieces back together.
If steps aren't taken above to address where the fine lines which lost us matches, then that's the time to take measures such as overhauling the coaching staff.
And I'd appreciate it if you would not make such assumptions about what sort of a fan I am - like you I have seen almost every match this season, and want success going forward. This is simply my opinion on how best to achieve it.
