Is the bashing we are getting deserved?
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Re: Is the bashing we are getting deserved?
Toby Flood got his shot into Hartley and did it correctly, after taking three big hits in a row. Good stuff... well done Toby! Thats how to do it....
Manu, sorry chap, thats not how you do it...... in fact you almost came across as a complete "Nutter".
At the moment the Tigers are not being seen to win with "style"........ they are just "winning at all costs" - not earning respect is what it boils down to
Manu, sorry chap, thats not how you do it...... in fact you almost came across as a complete "Nutter".
At the moment the Tigers are not being seen to win with "style"........ they are just "winning at all costs" - not earning respect is what it boils down to
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Re: Is the bashing we are getting deserved?
Fact> manu should of got a red
fact> he did not due to poor assistant ref not Barnes fault he said he did not see it
Fact> Cockerill does get carried away
Fact, cockerill probably had not seen it, but lets be honest, he is not gonna say, " oh yes Manu was bang out of order, we will ban him for 6 weeks it was disgusting!!"
fact> people hate winners, look at man utd, always winning things but nuetral fans hate them
Fact> 7 finals in a row breeds jealousy, lets be honest most experts & neutrals thought stains would win( i was one of them).
Do we deserve the bashing? only if the club does not address the issues. A club ban on Manu & a fine to Cockerill & O connor if the evidence is clear.
fact> he did not due to poor assistant ref not Barnes fault he said he did not see it
Fact> Cockerill does get carried away
Fact, cockerill probably had not seen it, but lets be honest, he is not gonna say, " oh yes Manu was bang out of order, we will ban him for 6 weeks it was disgusting!!"
fact> people hate winners, look at man utd, always winning things but nuetral fans hate them
Fact> 7 finals in a row breeds jealousy, lets be honest most experts & neutrals thought stains would win( i was one of them).
Do we deserve the bashing? only if the club does not address the issues. A club ban on Manu & a fine to Cockerill & O connor if the evidence is clear.
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Re: Is the bashing we are getting deserved?
Its got nothing to do with "hating winners"...... it aint what you do its how you do it
Nigel Owens should have been ref...... he is good at taming Tigers
Nigel Owens should have been ref...... he is good at taming Tigers
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Re: Is the bashing we are getting deserved?
These are not facts they are opinions.nottslad wrote:Fact> manu should of (sic) got a red
fact> he did not due to poor assistant ref not Barnes fault he said he did not see it
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Re: Is the bashing we are getting deserved?
I watched the ITV4 highlights last night. Excellent coverage, suitable dwelling and slow motion to he the extent of Manu's loss of discipline, then on with the game, followed by a former Saints legend (Bayfield) giving a true account of the game, Tigers deserved the win as they suffocated Northampton and didn't let them play.
With regard to respect, don't forget this is from a fans viewpoint. "Same old Leicester, always cheating" has rung out for years and will do for years to come. It's the price of success, but comes from opposition supporters. I think you'll find that the players who come up against Tigers have a different view...we are relentless, powerful, very difficult to play against and our passion and commitent is very hard to match. I don't particularly care if other fans haven't got respect for Tigers.
With regard to respect, don't forget this is from a fans viewpoint. "Same old Leicester, always cheating" has rung out for years and will do for years to come. It's the price of success, but comes from opposition supporters. I think you'll find that the players who come up against Tigers have a different view...we are relentless, powerful, very difficult to play against and our passion and commitent is very hard to match. I don't particularly care if other fans haven't got respect for Tigers.
Re: Is the bashing we are getting deserved?
I think all this negativity about us is going to fire us up for the final. Cockerill will use this and what's been said in the last few weeks. Everyone was talking about Northampton and Saracens.
It annoys me and I'm sure it will be used positively by Tigers behind closed doors. All the focus is on Manu and it's sad really.
It annoys me and I'm sure it will be used positively by Tigers behind closed doors. All the focus is on Manu and it's sad really.
Re: Is the bashing we are getting deserved?
Yes, every game Tigers have won since then have been down to Backie's "incident" - sheeshnorthamptontillidie wrote:When incidents like what Neil Back did happen, yes.kpbates wrote:fleabane wrote:Yes from me too!
Do u believe then we deserve to be called the 'biggest cheats in th northern hemisphere'(not my words but what i have read on planet rugby)
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Re: Is the bashing we are getting deserved?
In a word yes!
I am an long time Rugby fan.
I enjoy GOOD rugby BUT Tigers are bringing the game into disrepute.
If you stick to the good rugby that you can play that would be ok.
Cockyrill and his henchmen deserve all that the RFU throw at them.
Tuilagi also WILL be banned as is deserved.
Tigers are the acrhitects bringing rugby down to the level of football.
Yes I am a Saints fan and yes would normally congratulate a team on a good fair win. BUT and its a big BUT such activities on display at your ground on Saturday have scarred the proud game and ALL at the club should hold thier heads in shame.
I REPEAT i ALWAYS will congratulate a team but on this occasion you have not done yourselves or the game any favours.
No doubt some stupid comments will come my way (which will prove my case) but as much as it greives to to say COME ON SARRIES.
Watch out Tigers you are heading for a big fall!!!!! yippeeeeeeeeeeee
I am an long time Rugby fan.
I enjoy GOOD rugby BUT Tigers are bringing the game into disrepute.
If you stick to the good rugby that you can play that would be ok.
Cockyrill and his henchmen deserve all that the RFU throw at them.
Tuilagi also WILL be banned as is deserved.
Tigers are the acrhitects bringing rugby down to the level of football.
Yes I am a Saints fan and yes would normally congratulate a team on a good fair win. BUT and its a big BUT such activities on display at your ground on Saturday have scarred the proud game and ALL at the club should hold thier heads in shame.
I REPEAT i ALWAYS will congratulate a team but on this occasion you have not done yourselves or the game any favours.
No doubt some stupid comments will come my way (which will prove my case) but as much as it greives to to say COME ON SARRIES.
Watch out Tigers you are heading for a big fall!!!!! yippeeeeeeeeeeee
Re: Is the bashing we are getting deserved?
Care to offer some examples to support your assertion that "Tigers are the acrhitects bringing rugby down to the level of football" Saintsarebest?
Also how you derive saints are best when were beaten.
Thanks.
Also how you derive saints are best when were beaten.
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Re: Is the bashing we are getting deserved?
"pretty good?" I thought he had an excellent game. If he's not in the final he will be sorely missed, especially as he always seems to raise Alex's game as well.DickyP wrote:I don't need to comment further on Manu's transgression and I suspect he'll get what he deserves. However, what did make me smile was other than the punch-up he had a pretty good game overall. In the Rugby Paper today he was given a 4 for his performance. Almost as if you lose marks for being a bad boy like in school, as opposed to being an objective scoring of performance.
At least he didn't take a cheap shot at the back of someone's head who was on the ground at the time.
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Re: Is the bashing we are getting deserved?
Purebob do I really need to expand!
Cockyrills touchline antics over a long period of time sum it up.
It comes from the top down.
Tuilagi made a mistake in the heat of the moment but not any TRUE rugby fan at WR can be proud of his actions. In any court in the land it would be assault.
Let's hope he gets what he deserves. Ashston may have pushed him but that was all. Such a reaction as Tuilagis is not acceptable in today's rugby.
Saints may not have won the match but we have won fans that you have lost.
Play good rugby in the right spirit that what its about.
Cockyrills touchline antics over a long period of time sum it up.
It comes from the top down.
Tuilagi made a mistake in the heat of the moment but not any TRUE rugby fan at WR can be proud of his actions. In any court in the land it would be assault.
Let's hope he gets what he deserves. Ashston may have pushed him but that was all. Such a reaction as Tuilagis is not acceptable in today's rugby.
Saints may not have won the match but we have won fans that you have lost.
Play good rugby in the right spirit that what its about.
Re: Is the bashing we are getting deserved?
Oh saintsare4thbest what you have written is so one eyed and why are you bothering when most Tigers fans are agreeing with your carefully selected points?saintsarebest wrote:Purebob do I really need to expand!
Cockyrills touchline antics over a long period of time sum it up.
It comes from the top down.
Tuilagi made a mistake in the heat of the moment but not any TRUE rugby fan at WR can be proud of his actions. In any court in the land it would be assault.
Let's hope he gets what he deserves. Ashston may have pushed him but that was all. Such a reaction as Tuilagis is not acceptable in today's rugby.
Saints may not have won the match but we have won fans that you have lost.
Play good rugby in the right spirit that what its about.
But just a push? Manu clearly reacted but the provocation was equally clearly there.
If Saints had turned up with that sentiment as any part of their game plan a lot of what did happen that was regrettable wouldn't have happened.saintsarebest wrote:Play good rugby in the right spirit that what its about.
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Re: Is the bashing we are getting deserved?
I agree and accept most of your points to be fair, but the above? People in glasshouses......Did Ben Foden recently receive a Police caution (criminal record?) for his footballer-esque antics? Up until that point I couldn't disagree, apart from adjusting your comment from Manu WILL be banned to Manu SHOULD be banned, unless of course you have insider information or officials in your pocket.saintsarebest wrote:Tigers are the acrhitects bringing rugby down to the level of football.
Most of us agree about the Manu incident, you are preaching to the choir.
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LeicScarlet, I have to disagree. I think you will find that a left, left then right combo is classed as he was doing a thorough job.Manu, sorry chap, thats not how you do it...... in fact you almost came across as a complete "Nutter".
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Re: Is the bashing we are getting deserved?
Can you list some specific examples please ?Purebob do I really need to expand!
Cockyrills touchline antics over a long period of time sum it up.
I have been a Tigers fan for more than 30 years and I have not seen any action by any of our players or staff that deserves that
Our coaches are reported as being foul mouthed and disrespectful during some matches. I could name plenty of supporters and staff of many teams who show similar traits sometimes. I am not sure how this means that myself and all the representatives and fans of Leicester Tigers should "hold our heads in shame".ALL at the club should hold thier heads in shame.
If the coaches are found guilty of rulebreaking they should be punished. Manu's actions look to be worth a ban. The citing officer will look today.
Can't help but think its a bit harsh for you to consider that everyone associated with the most successful club of the modern era, backbone of the England squad should be ASHAMED of everything we are because of this.