Cocker's refused by RFU !!!!

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Cocker's refused by RFU !!!!

Post by Scuba Steve » Wed May 05, 2010 1:50 pm

So Cocker's asked the RFU to sign a hooker on short term deal and was refused. Yet they let Saffer's sign a prop !!!!!!! Well what a shock !!!!!! :smt013 :smt013 :smt013


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Re: Cocker's refused by RFU !!!!

Post by Bill W (2) » Wed May 05, 2010 1:56 pm

That's the RFU for you!

Like their refs. One rule for Tigers and a different rule for the rest!!!

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Re: Cocker's refused by RFU !!!!

Post by voice of the crumbie » Wed May 05, 2010 3:27 pm

Could Cockers register himself as player? After all it wouldn't be a new signing he is already at tigers. :smt003
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Re: Cocker's refused by RFU !!!!

Post by mightymouse » Wed May 05, 2010 3:31 pm

he still looks quite fit - ........ unlike some retired front row players I know ..hrmph

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Re: Cocker's refused by RFU !!!!

Post by Bill W (2) » Wed May 05, 2010 3:39 pm

voice of the crumbie wrote:Could Cockers register himself as player? After all it wouldn't be a new signing he is already at tigers. :smt003
Would break the salary cap!!

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Re: Cocker's refused by RFU !!!!

Post by tigerben » Wed May 05, 2010 3:53 pm

Bill W (2) wrote:
voice of the crumbie wrote:Could Cockers register himself as player? After all it wouldn't be a new signing he is already at tigers. :smt003
Would break the salary cap!!

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could it not come under the dispensation ruling that got us Lote? Mefin will be out for at least 3 months seeing as its 4-5 months til the new season!

(even though when he returns from injury he will not be playing for us)
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Re: Cocker's refused by RFU !!!!

Post by Bill W (2) » Wed May 05, 2010 4:41 pm

Is Wheelbrace back to fitness after his hip operation?

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Re: Cocker's refused by RFU !!!!

Post by bluntiger » Wed May 05, 2010 5:03 pm

I am sure the RFU are justifying it by saying it is 'too far after the transfer window closed'.

But if there is a transfer window and you allow one team to bring in a player outside that window, what legal or fair-play grounds can there be for not allowing another team even if it is later? The circumstances seem more extreme for us in terms of injuries and as cockers said, they seem to have planty of props around in the 'A' team on Monday as well as three more in the first XV.

It is one of the most frustrating parts of being a rugby supporter - the sports administrators are completely inept. They never tackle issues, fudge decisions and seem to change directions like pampus grass in the wind! And that is consistently bad across the RFU, ERC, IRB - they really are as bad as each other.

Whilst on that subjuct, whatever happened to the Tincu affair? The Jennings citation from last season? I can't think of a sport that is administered worse than Rugby.

It makes me laugh when a football manager is irate because a linesman didn't flag for offside when the opposition player was clearly 3mm offside! Or the penalty that was not given when a defender clearly coughed and forced the player over! We regularly see players 3, 4 even 5M offside and the linesman doesn't notice it.

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Re: Cocker's refused by RFU !!!!

Post by Bill W (2) » Wed May 05, 2010 5:06 pm

tigerben wrote: could it not come under the dispensation ruling that got us Lote? Mefin will be out for at least 3 months seeing as its 4-5 months til the new season!

(even though when he returns from injury he will not be playing for us)
On a serious note, I think there are two different regulations.

The first is an RFU one - which says that you cannot register new players in a season (transfers in) after March. It is from this that the RFU have refused dispensation .

The second is the PRL salary cap one which says that if a player is injured for a long period you may be allowed to go over the salary cap. It was such dispensation (Geordan being injured) that allowed us to bring in Lote.
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Re: Cocker's refused by RFU !!!!

Post by Bill W (2) » Wed May 05, 2010 5:10 pm

bluntiger wrote:I am sure the RFU are justifying it by saying it is 'too far after the transfer window closed'.

But if there is a transfer window and you allow one team to bring in a player outside that window, what legal or fair-play grounds can there be for not allowing another team even if it is later? The circumstances seem more extreme for us in terms of injuries and as cockers said, they seem to have planty of props around in the 'A' team on Monday as well as three more in the first XV.

It is one of the most frustrating parts of being a rugby supporter - the sports administrators are completely inept. They never tackle issues, fudge decisions and seem to change directions like pampus grass in the wind! And that is consistently bad across the RFU, ERC, IRB - they really are as bad as each other.

Whilst on that subjuct, whatever happened to the Tincu affair? The Jennings citation from last season? I can't think of a sport that is administered worse than Rugby.

It makes me laugh when a football manager is irate because a linesman didn't flag for offside when the opposition player was clearly 3mm offside! Or the penalty that was not given when a defender clearly coughed and forced the player over! We regularly see players 3, 4 even 5M offside and the linesman doesn't notice it.

Rugby - a game poorly officiated and poorly administred.
Concur bluntiger.

What happenned in the Tincu affair was that a French Court ruled that the evidence placed before HHJ J. Blackett was inadmissable.

btw have Magners spoken over Ospreys refusing to play Ulster?
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Re: Cocker's refused by RFU !!!!

Post by Bill W (2) » Wed May 05, 2010 6:29 pm

jgriffin wrote:You're 'aving a girafffe Bill. You should know better! ML do what? Some hope, they'll wait to see if it makes any difference to Ospreys and then give them £1 fine.
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Re: Cocker's refused by RFU !!!!

Post by sam16111986 » Wed May 05, 2010 8:04 pm

The Ospreys hearing has been put back having fallen during the ash cloud problems hence the flights to the court in Scotland could no be made.

Cockerill has every right to feel agreeved. Not only is it completely unfair it is potentially dangerous. What happens if Duffey or Chutes pulls a muscle and Stevens our 19 year old completely unexperienced hooker has to take a place on the bench. He would have too as well as the rules dictate you now have to have front row replacements on bench, if he enters the fray he could seriously injure himself as the players on the opposing team will be far more experienced and far bigger.

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Re: Cocker's refused by RFU !!!!

Post by Bill W (2) » Wed May 05, 2010 8:10 pm

sam16111986 wrote:The Ospreys hearing has been put back having fallen during the ash cloud problems hence the flights to the court in Scotland could no be made.

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This we knew. When it will nw be heard we do not know.

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Re: Cocker's refused by RFU !!!!

Post by Tircoeds » Wed May 05, 2010 9:05 pm

Bill W (2) wrote:
sam16111986 wrote:The Ospreys hearing has been put back having fallen during the ash cloud problems hence the flights to the court in Scotland could no be made.

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This we knew. When it will nw be heard we do not know.

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Quite, though why this has appeared in a thread about Cockers and the RFU baffles me.

Another attempt at O's bashing 'cos there aint nowt else to do.

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