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Re: Heineken Cup Draw - Tues 09th June - Discussion here please

Post by The Countess of Welford » Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:24 pm

I would also rate ASM above Biarritz or Stade.

I know historically Stade and BOPB have better records than ASM in the European Cup but ask any Munster fan and they will say the Clermont side are no pushover especially at home.

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Post by stevetelcom2000 » Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:31 pm

jgriffin wrote:What were the Bakers Arms guys doing on the road from the south on Monday then? Spotted the bus and pipped.
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Post by LeinsterCormac » Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:33 pm

The Countess of Welford wrote:I would also rate ASM above Biarritz or Stade.

I know historically Stade and BOPB have better records than ASM in the European Cup but ask any Munster fan and they will say the Clermont side are no pushover especially at home.
Munster were lucky to beat them at home last season too, despite Clermont being down to 14 men for much of the game. They're a seriously good side, beat Toulouse in the recent French semi-final and have been to the French final for the last three seasons.

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Post by Suz » Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:34 pm

Ospreys again!! It feels like we play them more often than some of the GP clubs (apart from Bath!) :smt002
Its a hard pool but we should do it.. I fancy a trip to Italy as well. :smt023
I was really hoping for Brive - would have been nice to have AG back at Welford Road!!

Pool 5 is 'the pool of death' 3 out of this years 1/4 finalists, very hard. Could go any way.

I bet the Saints are looking forward to a trip to Munster :smt023
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Re: Heineken Cup Draw - Tues 09th June - Discussion here please

Post by Richard » Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:08 pm

i agree with most people on here that group 5 is the group of death this year with perhaps Sale the weakest in that group after loosing a few players to France could be any 1 out of the three other to top the group....and more than likely only one going through .....Munster to go through in Group 1 and possibly Perpignan. Biarritz from the poorest group (2), Leicester and Ospreys from our group 3, Stade from group 4, Cardiff from Group 5, London Irish from Group 6.
I expect the best runners up will come from the groups with the Italians, as normal.
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Post by kornboy130 » Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:39 pm

dailywaffle wrote:
Richard wrote:I would rather have Clermont than say Toulouse, Biarritz, Stade, Perpignan.......
Many, including me, would rate ASM Clermont ahead of Stade Francais or BOPB.
Ditto. They're backline is terrifying for next season - they've just topped it off with Jaque Fourie aswell.

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And thats not counting Malzieu, Joubert etc etc - stunning quality to have in that area. I'm a great admirer of theirs and would rather have had any other french team (bar Toulouse) in our group.

That being said i don't suppose either the Ospreys or Clermonts more knowledgable supporters are looking at this group and licking their lips either (well, maybe for the quality of Rugby that will be on show, but not from an easy rin point of view).

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Post by Lozza » Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:50 pm

:smt024 WWOOOOHHHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry - couldn't help it - I'm so excited about going to Clermont again! :smt004
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Post by Darc Tiger » Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:54 pm

Nalanga vs Tuilagi! :smt003 :smt003 :smt003 :smt003 :smt003 :smt003

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Post by Richard » Tue Jun 09, 2009 3:07 pm

I see 30,000 tickets have already been sold for the final in Paris...
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Post by tigermad » Tue Jun 09, 2009 3:33 pm

That is not a bad draw and never easy regardless of who we play. Ospreys never easy games and Clermont a different proposition than when we played them a few years ago. I am just looking forward to sitting in that new Caterpillar Stand. Any news on pre-season freindlies as yet?

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Re: Heineken Cup Draw - Tues 09th June - Discussion here please

Post by dailywaffle » Tue Jun 09, 2009 3:40 pm

tigermad wrote:That is not a bad draw and never easy regardless of who we play. Ospreys never easy games and Clermont a different proposition than when we played them a few years ago. I am just looking forward to sitting in that new Caterpillar Stand. Any news on pre-season freindlies as yet?

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There is a separate thread re a pre-season fixture against Munster.

Based on the euro rankings the two toughest groups are 1 and 5 (edit); our group 'only' being third toughest. However, Ospreys low ranking following their late season disasters is probably misleading.

Group 2, unsurprisingly, scores as the easiest.
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who do we want first?

Post by kingol22 » Tue Jun 09, 2009 3:44 pm

Personally i would like ospreys away and then clermont at home as 2 good performanses there would probaly see us top our group with ospreys at home should be a victory and 10 points from italy.

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Re: Heineken Cup Draw - Tues 09th June - Discussion here please

Post by kingol22 » Tue Jun 09, 2009 3:45 pm

Shame about northampton was hoping they would get through but with there group they wont be happy

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Re: who do we want first?

Post by cotch » Tue Jun 09, 2009 4:33 pm

i think a nice home tie against the french team followed by the offsprays away. that way the back to back games wil be against the italians and we could rest some of our international who might need a break due to the crazy autum international matches. and finish with group matches with offsprays at home
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Re: Heineken Cup Draw - Tues 09th June - Discussion here please

Post by redtiger » Tue Jun 09, 2009 4:37 pm

If you go to say, Clermont with tigers travel club how much free time do you generally get over there? just the day of the game or an exta day to check out the local area?
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