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England Elite Player Squads

Post by soggytiger » Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:09 am

England Elite Player Squads Announcement


1 July 2008

England Team Manager Martin Johnson, CBE and Elite Rugby Director, Rob Andrew, MBE today announced the England Elite Player Squad
32 players and the Saxons Elite Player Squad 32 players.

England Senior Elite Player Squad




Forwards
Steve Borthwick Saracens
George Chuter Leicester Tigers
Jordan Crane * Leicester Tigers

Tom Croft Leicester Tigers
Dylan Hartley* Northampton Saints
James Haskell London Wasps
Nick Kennedy * London Irish
Lee Mears Bath Rugby
Lewis Moody Leicester Tigers
Luke Narraway Gloucester Rugby
Tom Palmer London Wasps
Tim Payne London Wasps
Tom Rees London Wasps
Simon Shaw London Wasps
Andrew Sheridan Sale Sharks
Matt Stevens Bath Rugby
Phil Vickery London Wasps
Backs
Olly Barkley Gloucester Rugby
Danny Care Harlequins
Harry Ellis Leicester Tigers
Toby Flood Leicester Tigers

Riki Flutey * London Wasps
Shane Geraghty London Irish
Dan Hipkiss Leicester Tigers
Josh Lewsey London Wasps
Jamie Noon Newcastle Falcons
Pete Richards London Irish
Paul Sackey London Wasps
James Simpson-Daniel Gloucester Rugby
Mathew Tait Sale Sharks
Tom Varndell Leicester Tigers
Jonny Wilkinson Newcastle Falcons


Saxons Squad

Forwards
Steffon Armitage* London Irish
Richard Blaze * Leicester Tigers
Louis Deacon Leicester Tigers

Nick Easter Harlequins
Jack Forster* Gloucester Rugby
Tom Guest * Harlequins
Jason Hobson Bristol Rugby
Chris Jones Sale Sharks
Ben Kay Leicester Tigers
Michael Lipman Bath Rugby
David Paice London Irish
George Skivington * London Wasps
Andy Titterrell Gloucester Rugby
Joe Ward * London Wasps
David Wilson * Newcastle Falcons
Nick Wood * Gloucester Rugby
Joe Worsley London Wasps
Backs
Nick Abendanon Bath Rugby
Anthony Allen Gloucester Rugby
Matt Banahan * Bath Rugby
Mike Brown Harlequins
Danny Cipriani London Wasps
Ben Foden * Northampton Saints
Andy Goode Leicester Tigers
Paul Hodgson London Irish
Ryan Lamb * Gloucester Rugby
Ugo Monye * Harlequins
Topsy Ojo London Irish
David Strettle Harlequins
Mike Tindall Gloucester Rugby
Dominic Waldouck * London Wasps
Richard Wigglesworth Sale Sharks


* Denotes uncapped players

Please note there are 19 capped players in the Saxons Elite Player Squad

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Post by TTRITH » Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:12 am

we need to sign a 2nd rower, now.

3 out of 4 in both squads... we're in trouble...

BUT, Congrats to Crane, Croft, Chuter, Moody, Ellis, Flood, Hipkiss, and Varndell for making the England Squad and to Blaze, Deacon, Kay, and Goode for the Saxons.
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Post by martynsmiffss » Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:28 am

Get the cheque book out, we need a stand off and some second rows :smt003
Congratulations to all tigers selected :smt023
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Post by smalldell » Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:33 am

I think the Saxons players are not away like the main squad or am I wrong?

If I am then yes we need more Second rows

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Post by Bearded.Biker » Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:58 am

Agree if the Elite and Saxon squads are away together we might have a problem in several ares!!

On another matter and excuse me if I am old fashioned but less than half of the players in the Elite backs are 'specialists'.

2 x 9's - Ellis / Care
1 x 10 - Wilkinson
2 x 13's - Hipkiss / Noon
2 x 11/14 - Varndell / Sackey

There are 4 x 12's who can cover at 10 with various degrees of effectiveness depending on your viewpoint Barkley / Flood / Flutey / Geraghty.

1 x Utility 11/14/15 - Lewsey.

That leaves Tait whose best position has yet to be detemined but lies anywhere between no's. 11 to 15.

Sinbad who can play 12 to 14.

And Richards ??

As an ex Forward I find their selection fine with the exception of Vickery who I struggle to accept.

And what about the coaches? When will they be named I wonder.

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Post by tigerfeet13 » Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:05 pm

Bearded.Biker wrote:As an ex Forward I find their selection fine with the exception of Vickery who I struggle to accept.
Couldn't the same be said of Mears and Stevens. Both found badly wanting down under. (& I don't mean as part of the Hilton 4!)

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Post by Chobbsy » Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:06 pm

Bearded.Biker wrote:Agree if the Elite and Saxon squads are away together we might have a problem in several ares!!

On another matter and excuse me if I am old fashioned but less than half of the players in the Elite backs are 'specialists'.

2 x 9's - Ellis / Care
1 x 10 - Wilkinson
2 x 13's - Hipkiss / Noon
2 x 11/14 - Varndell / Sackey

There are 4 x 12's who can cover at 10 with various degrees of effectiveness depending on your viewpoint Barkley / Flood / Flutey / Geraghty.

1 x Utility 11/14/15 - Lewsey.

That leaves Tait whose best position has yet to be detemined but lies anywhere between no's. 11 to 15.

Sinbad who can play 12 to 14.

And Richards ??

As an ex Forward I find their selection fine with the exception of Vickery who I struggle to accept.

And what about the coaches? When will they be named I wonder.
Shane Geraghty over Cipriani, I know Danny has / is out so I suppose he is just being brought back in slowly
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Post by littlefeat » Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:31 pm

According to the Times it is expected that senior elite squad players will miss 9 out of 22 league matches - help!
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Post by adamv6 » Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:31 pm

Think of all the cash - £146k for each player named in the EPS squad.

Thats £1.16m for Tigers.
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Post by NorthantsTiger » Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:32 pm

Squad seems pretty good tbh, it looks like Johnno has a great mix of form, experience and talent. Over on the BBC's 606 message board, Chuter is taking some stick, but i think he is there to help bring through the new talent and is an old hand useful for the dressing room. Its good to see all the Tigers players in both squads and congratulations to Jordan Crane on his call up he has been immense all season and was simply outstanding during the saxons tour. Now all Johnno needs to do is sort out the coaching set up..get the backs playing....restore some pride to the England shirt not much to do really then :smt005
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Post by westy154 » Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:46 pm

£1.168m Adam, don't forget the 8.


Chuter is a puzzler. He probably isn't the number 1 pick at Tigers anymore for the hooker berth (i would pick Kayser myself), but he is still a quality player and will I'm sure add experience and knowledge for the likes of Hartley.
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Post by TigerTimmy » Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:55 pm

Is the money not being split evenly between all the clubs, due to the clubs "unanimously" voting for it?

Meaning Worcester will get the same amount as we do, despite contributing nothing to the Squad
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Post by Dave Angel » Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:14 pm

TigerTimmy wrote:Is the money not being split evenly between all the clubs, due to the clubs "unanimously" voting for it?

Meaning Worcester will get the same amount as we do, despite contributing nothing to the Squad


Pretty much.

Thre will be slight differences where clubs that contribute more players will get a little bit more cash as a result but the PRL stance is that each club gets a minimum amount from the RFU's EPS pot regardless of how many players they contribute so cash differences between top & bottom clubs may be in the (low) tens of thousands at best & Tigers certainly won't get £1.168m from the central post.


Thanks a lot PRL. :smt011

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