Ackford's Article may be closest to truth so far

Snorbins · Post by **Snorbins** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:05 pm

Now that is motivational and what we used to get at half time. From the captain. Corry is too nice?

kornboy130 · Post by **kornboy130** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:11 pm

terrier92 wrote: my coaching team

back - defence
cockerill - pack
gibson - backs
white - dirctor of rugby.

couldn't really argue with that...

Iain D · Post by **Iain D** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 5:40 pm

I don't know guys. I just remember that at the start of the season (admittedly when we had many players away on World Cup duty) we didn't look at all good. That was with the magic Cockers / Back coaching combination. I just don't have faith in either of them right now, especially after the comments made in the press and the poor form of our scrum and our defence.

I know many have slated ML for Tiger's performances, but can you honestly say that our scrummaging has improved consistenly over the year, or that our defence has got better?

Again, one can't remove the fact that it's the players that are ultimately responsible for thier performance on the day... but I just don't have confidence in Cockers or Backy right now.

Pete · Post by **Pete** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:52 pm

I agree with Iain D.
If indeed players were trying to avoid squirming with embarrassment at Loffreda, what on earth were Cockers and Back doing about it?

Bill W · Post by **Bill W** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:49 pm

Pete wrote:I agree with Iain D.
If indeed players were trying to avoid squirming with embarrassment at Loffreda, what on earth were Cockers and Back doing about it?

Whinging and going on nationwide TV to say that the players were not good enough!

westy154 · Post by **westy154** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:13 am

The article AGAIN draws me back to the question, "how did he get the job in the first place?" Did no one take a look at how he did things?

Oh, and if Gibson is appointed to replace Loffreda, I hope the board will be patient with him and let him find his feet. After all it took us 3 years to win something under Howard.

Bill W · Post by **Bill W** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:18 am

westy154 wrote:The article AGAIN draws me back to the question, "how did he get the job in the first place?" Did no one take a look at how he did things?

Oh, and if Gibson is appointed to replace Loffreda, I hope the board will be patient with him and let him find his feet. After all it took us 3 years to win something under Howard.

Negative Batman. Gibson, if appointed must achieve three finals and one pot in his first season. They are the ground rules that have been set. Oh and a superb "style of play".

Else his appontment will have been another mistake and one or both of the Peters will have to go!

kornboy130 · Post by **kornboy130** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:55 am

I'd genuinely be really surprised if gibbo was head coach, unless we had a Director of Rugby in aswell.

Bill W · Post by **Bill W** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:57 am

DoR = Back? Cockerill?

Who then?

kornboy130 · Post by **kornboy130** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:17 am

a head coach type of figure, Jake White would be ideal - maybe Ewen McKenzie.

1966 · Post by **1966** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:35 am

westy154 wrote:Oh, and if Gibson is appointed to replace Loffreda, I hope the board will be patient with him and let him find his feet. After all it took us 3 years to win something under Howard.

It seems to me that the board have set the standard for what is deemed success and as such any new head coach must win something next season. Otherwise the credibility of the board will be further undermined.

westy154 · Post by **westy154** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:08 am

The more I think and the more I read, the less I am inclined to agree that Loffreda would still be in his post even if he had won one of the finals. (2, maybe.)

dailywaffle · Post by **dailywaffle** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:32 am

westy154 wrote:The more I think and the more I read, the less I am inclined to agree that Loffreda would still be in his post even if he had won one of the finals. (2, maybe.)

Exactly. I have no doubt that he would still have been fired, almost regardless of what happened in the GP final.

In retrospect, he was extremely vulnerable from the date of the EDF debacle.

Nik · Post by **Nik** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:49 pm

This behind the scene's pooh is going to carry on until the club face up and get rid of the problem.

We've had this behind the scene's stuff for the past three seasons, one common denominator = cockers! and he stays to fight on - fight on against the team and coach??????

why does it seem to me that this guy is like teflon - non stick....... I believe if there was a coaching clean sweep the team would be a lot happier! My view.