does England need a haka?

Rizzo · Post by **Rizzo** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:14 pm

Interesting thought. Your views?

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Chobbsy · Post by **Chobbsy** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:16 pm

Rizzo wrote:Interesting thought. Your views?

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What we going to do MORRIS DANCE !!!

Rizzo · Post by **Rizzo** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:19 pm

Matt Dawson could give the team some tips on the tango?

watso2c · Post by **watso2c** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 3:10 pm

Could always try the Hokey Cokey or a Conga. Should leave the opposition confused for the first 5 minutes if nothing else.

Kinoulton · Post by **Kinoulton** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:10 pm

They should sing YMCA doing all the actions.

The Kiwis might enter the rucks and mauls with slightly less vigour.

watso2c · Post by **watso2c** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:29 pm

How about the Yanks Line Dancing and the Canadians singing the Lumber Jack song.

Angelo · Post by **Angelo** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:02 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHA...and we italians replying with a Tarantella, with a collective umbrella move at the end? Why not... :D

Rizzo · Post by **Rizzo** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:29 pm

Actually, the tango would be an incorrect choice nationality-wise - maybe it ought to be the foxtrot.

Seriously, I don't know where these people come up with these odd ideas - it would look utterly ridiculous for Cozza and his boys to attempt any such thing, not to mention embarrassing for them. I seem to recall Mr Cockerill being relatively intimidating on one occasion without the need for a symbolic dance - and I consider the shoulder-to-shoulder stance of our team as stalwart response enough.

What does annoy me is the comment after the game that the Twickenham crowd were "disrespectful" for singing Swing Low during the haka - what, they expect the entire stadium to stand in silence now? How absurd!

teds · Post by **teds** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:08 pm

I must admit to being one of those who see the haka as having no place in professsional sport. Why should one team stand still in the cold, waiting in for the other team to do its warm up? Out of respect?

Nik · Post by **Nik** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:42 pm

yes and they should tell Andy Robinson to Haka Offa :!:

Angelo · Post by **Angelo** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:12 pm

Rizzo wrote:What does annoy me is the comment after the game that the Twickenham crowd were "disrespectful" for singing Swing Low during the haka - what, they expect the entire stadium to stand in silence now? How absurd!

i think so. Haka is a tradition, Swing low sweet chariot another tradition. I liked that very much, and i do not think it was disrespectful. A nice answer, Stop.

Much better than last test match in Stadio Flaminio 2004 between Italy and All Blacks, when Haka was covered by Carabinieri (Italian military police) march from the Carabinieri band who was leaving the pitch (it was not their fault poor guys, no order has come to them with the advertise that All blacks have to do the Haka after the national anthems...LOL) ...very comic i ensure you

banbury tiger · Post by **banbury tiger** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:03 pm

good idea but would'nt work in internatonal rugby. i'm affraid to say the haka and like war dances from now on will be kept in new z and the pacific islands

Kinoulton · Post by **Kinoulton** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:08 pm

For me the Haka is a great piece of theatre and a great prelude to a physical game.

If we get rid of anything it should be the two warblers with microphones singing long versions of the respective national anthems, whilst the players stand shivering and pretending to sing along. It makes me squirm.

The only purpose it serves is enabling TV viewers to go and get a fresh beer out of the fridge before kick-off.

Iain · Post by **Iain** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:15 pm

For me the haka is one of the best sights in sport and should be watched and repected. Properly gets the hairs on the back of your neck standing up. It comes from Maori culture, and is there to lay down the challenge for a fair battle. It may look as though it is pure intimidation but it is in fact more to do with ensuring the opposition come in peace.
And no, England could not possibly have a haka quite simply because we do not have a custom of dance to greet opposition before going into battle, unlike Pacific Nations.

Hairy Egg · Post by **Hairy Egg** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:49 pm

I don't mind the Hakka (it's just a bit of theatre), what p's me off is that EVERY response gets branded as 'disrespectful' by the New Zealanders.

In my view every nation has the right to react to a war dance in whatever way they feel fit. Campese had the right idea - ignore it and kick a ball around behind the 22 while they were doing it.

Singing Swing Low is a valid response in my book :twisted:

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