Cardiff's second try

Smudge · Post by **Smudge** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:12 pm

I have just watched the game again and my call at the time was absolutely right.
The looping overhead pass to Shanklin from which the Cardiff second try came, was at least 10 yards forwards.

Ok with the benefit of slow motion it was easy to prove but I called it easy enough live,
so why didn't the ref or at least the punditry?

The try should not have stood!
Let's not have too much guff about Deacons foot then!

kevf · Post by **kevf** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:41 pm

but rememeber only tigers ever cheat no other team in whole widest world does... it is a thing developed at tigers and only us know how to do it...

any other team found doing it is purely a coincidence

gmangtr · Post by **gmangtr** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:16 pm

Read your report and clicked on the DVD, as the MS grass is cut in 5 metre strips of grass I expected to see the ball cross 2 sets of stripes going forward. It did not !!
The ball did travel forward a yard or so but Robinson was running forward and the momentum rule would have come in.

So it was marginal - Yes but it was not picked up

If you want to pick hole look at your two tries , a Leicester play fell on the Cardiff player on the floor on both occasions, correct call , Penalty to Cardiff !! and 12 points off the scoreboard but that is stupid....

You won ... end of ...both sides played the ref to the best of their ability and Cardiff Blues have no complaints. I just wish you would win with grace

Big Dai · Post by **Big Dai** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:19 pm

............................................Forward? Maybe, but not as far forward as the one Leinster scored!!

Read it in the Argus!

Big Bad John · Post by **Big Bad John** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:01 pm

Just thought I would point out that there is no such thing as a "Momentum Rule" in Rugby!! The ball is only allowed to travel backwards from the hands of a player, the only exception being a charge down! Even Sliding forwards onto a ball on the ground is technically a knock on, although I have seen a fair few of those overlooked recently!

Points cannot be deducted by the referee during the course of a game. Only following the citation of illegal play, where points can be deducted from a teams accumulated total over the course of a tournament.

I doubt that any Leicester player 'falling' onto a member of the oppositions team would be deemed worthy of a penalty let alone points deduction!!!

nwnreader · Post by **nwnreader** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:21 pm

BBJ
While you are correct that 'The Momentum Rule' has no place in any official rugby Laws, an increasing number of referees are adopting this SH interpretation Indeed, in a conversation with Stuart Dickinson recently he was adamant that such passes have to be allowed.
I disagree totally, but being 'right' is too often insufficient.

kevf · Post by **kevf** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:33 pm

gmangtr wrote: Cardiff Blues have no complaints. I just wish you would win with grace

maybe most of you guys haven't any complaints and see it as most tigers do.. my comments where actually trying obviously vainly to be sarcastic... but there are quite a few 'Blues' supporters going on about the 'boot of deacon'... what i think smudge was saying is if you guys can complain about that we can also complain... so instead of complaining about winning with grace have a word with your fellow countrymen about losing with honour...

I enjoyed the whole game mistakes made by both sides... ref made mistakes for both sides... it could have gone either way... your red card but we didn't capitalise anyway... its rugby its not life or death so lets all chill and stop trying to start world war 3