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Post by nwnreader » Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:25 pm

I think the assertion the RFU have 'won' could be mistaken. I doubt there will be any winners here, only degrees of loss. The judge included in his judgement that the parties should be resolving these issues without resorting to litigation. Money that would be better spent on rugby is lining lawyers pockets. I fear this will end in tears.
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Post by simon redshaw » Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:08 pm

I very much agree with you nwnreader.

Its time now for both parties to start talking to each other more sensibly without threats and counter threats. Time to start negotiating a common good for the game like negotiating around not playing during the internationals periods etc.

The two sides are making Rugby Union a laughing stock in this country.

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Post by Sim » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:32 pm

BOOOOOO TO THE RFU, GET LOST AND FIND SOME OTHER PLAYERS OR JUST SIMPLY STOP ANNOYING US PREMIERSHIP TEAMS, GRRRRRRR

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Post by dailywaffle » Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:52 pm

Sim wrote:BOOOOOO TO THE RFU, GET LOST AND FIND SOME OTHER PLAYERS OR JUST SIMPLY STOP ANNOYING US PREMIERSHIP TEAMS, GRRRRRRR
Some say that the RFU WANT to keep annoying the premiership teams, to the point where they win the central contract argument. In which case, spats like this will continue.

They may be right.

A 'break away' moves one small step closer.

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Post by simon redshaw » Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:13 pm

Dailywaffle, I can understand your argument about the aims of the RFU. But would a break-away by the clubs really be for the benefit of the fans and for rugby in general in this country and also I wonder if the clubs could feasibly manage their own league. Also, there is the fact that the English clubs would I believe then be unable to play European rugby so there would be some loss of revenue. I believe a break-away move would have serious financial effects on all Premiership clubs.

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Post by Bill W » Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:30 pm

INHO the breakaway is indeed one step nearer.

The RFU in the small print of its submission said that no PRL player would play more than 8 matches. Thus the Argentina game is relagated to a "Saxons Team" but where does that leave training days?

Doubtless the RFU will now try and throw money at the problem.

But it is all too late.

Will end in tears - as it was always going to.

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Post by simon redshaw » Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:36 pm

But, Bill, what good is a break-away if it damages rugby in this country or at least weakens the clubs financially? Although I very much understand frustration with the RFU too. It seems that the RFU have arranged the extra game to prove a point. The Argentina game will not sell so well now if it is to be a Saxons Game. Also, why did we need two games against SA?

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Post by dailywaffle » Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:49 pm

simon redshaw wrote:Dailywaffle, I can understand your argument about the aims of the RFU. But would a break-away by the clubs really be for the benefit of the fans and for rugby in general in this country and also I wonder if the clubs could feasibly manage their own league. Also, there is the fact that the English clubs would I believe then be unable to play European rugby so there would be some loss of revenue. I believe a break-away move would have serious financial effects on all Premiership clubs.
Hi Simon - Indeed, these are some of the issues that have prevented a more dramatic response from the clubs. It is not at all clear (to me at least) that a stand alone premiership is currently viable. The clubs cannot move until it is, which some would say is what the RFU is banking on. In other words, the RFU hopes that they have the clubs by the short and curlies, ultimately passing player control to the RFU. I genuinely have no idea which side will win, but the status quo is clearly absurd to any observer. RU is still a joke in this country, organisationally speaking, and one of the reasons why I no longer have a season ticket.

Bill - nice to hear from you - miss anything whilst I was away in the States ?

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Post by Bill W » Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:52 pm

Simon

I do not think a breakaway is a good thing - but it is becoming IMHO inevitable.

I also do not think the RFU planned the NZ game to "prove a point" - they did it because they thought it was a "good idea" and wouild make money - they did not think any further - remember they believe they "own" all PRL players.

Do Club England need all these games - with the associated training sessions? Only to generate revenue for the RFU.

It will all end in tears.

Where is "El Supremo?"

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Post by Bill W » Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:57 pm

Dailywaffle

You may have missed me having my knee operated on!!

I agree with your analysis.

In the death money will talk.

You wanna come to a Tigers game at Welford Road any time just shout - you can have my sons ticket!!!

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Post by dailywaffle » Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:06 am

Thanks Bill, I will take you up on that. I wouldn't want your son to miss out - would you mind pm'ing me with any info on how many days you have 'spare' ? This beggar will not be too choosy !

Hope the op went well.

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Post by Bill W » Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:14 am

Have PM'd!

Op went well! Now suffering Physiotherapists who are trained to inflict pain!!!

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Post by simon redshaw » Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:18 am

Bill, glad your op went well. Don't worry about the Physiotherapists!

Dailywaffle, hope you had a great time in the States. Where did you go there?

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Post by Bill W » Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:22 am

I don't worry about them Simon! But gorgeous blondes are supposed to carress me back to health aren't they not beat me into submission!!!

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Post by simon redshaw » Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:26 am

Very true Bill!

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