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by h's dad
Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:06 am
Forum: Welford Road Chit Chat
Topic: Exeter Chiefs
Replies: 203
Views: 9490

Re: Exeter Chiefs

My bold. I just don't think they have any legitimate reason to use the headdress as a symbol but worse than that they've taken something that actually as real meaning to those who wear it. I just don't get it to be honest. Then why do American Indians make and sell them to outsiders? Do they? Yes. ...
by h's dad
Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:19 pm
Forum: Welford Road Chit Chat
Topic: Exeter Chiefs
Replies: 203
Views: 9490

Re: Exeter Chiefs

they are seen as items of great spiritual and political importance, only to be worn by those who have earned the right and honour through formal recognition by their people. My bold. I just don't think they have any legitimate reason to use the headdress as a symbol but worse than that they've take...
by h's dad
Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:04 pm
Forum: Welford Road Chit Chat
Topic: Exeter Chiefs
Replies: 203
Views: 9490

Re: Exeter Chiefs

they are seen as items of great spiritual and political importance, only to be worn by those who have earned the right and honour through formal recognition by their people. My bold. I just don't think they have any legitimate reason to use the headdress as a symbol but worse than that they've take...
by h's dad
Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:54 pm
Forum: Welford Road Chit Chat
Topic: Exeter Chiefs
Replies: 203
Views: 9490

Re: Exeter Chiefs

https://twitter.com/exchiefs4change/status/1289123768091254784?s=21 Thanks for this. I never said there there weren't any American Indians who were genuinely offended. As another poster asked previously, what proportion of the affected group needs to be offended and object for action to be taken? T...
by h's dad
Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:53 pm
Forum: Welford Road Chit Chat
Topic: Exeter Chiefs
Replies: 203
Views: 9490

Re: Exeter Chiefs

This isn’t about erasing History, and I’m not some defund-the-police Marxist who thinks no one should have an opinion. I too agree with Mark that’s Exeter’s decision was probably mostly financially based. The Indigenous Peoples didn’t suddenly become offended overnight, but the advent of social med...
by h's dad
Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:50 am
Forum: Welford Road Chit Chat
Topic: Exeter Chiefs
Replies: 203
Views: 9490

Re: Exeter Chiefs

I’m sorry TB but you’re just being exaggeratory to sideline the real issue at hand. JP14, I recognise that this is an issue and needs to be addressed. The exaggeration is asking how far do we have to go to make changes to address the issue..........not intended as offensive. As another user said, a...
by h's dad
Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:49 pm
Forum: Welford Road Chit Chat
Topic: Exeter Chiefs
Replies: 203
Views: 9490

Re: Exeter Chiefs

Of course there will be instances where there isn’t unanimity, that’s just life in general, Courtney Lawes amongst other POC are widely against the BLM movement. However, like my example, I firmly believe there are more indigenous Americans who find Exeter’s branding disrespectful than those who do...
by h's dad
Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:32 pm
Forum: Welford Road Chit Chat
Topic: Exeter Chiefs
Replies: 203
Views: 9490

Re: Exeter Chiefs

I’ve only gone back a couple of pages and found 3 posters who obviously feel, this is a local issue, but tbh that’s not important. Just so as it’s on the record I don’t really care if I offended you or not, I’m sure you’re a big boy, a pedant, but a big boy, and are more than capable of looking aft...
by h's dad
Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:06 pm
Forum: Fans Forum
Topic: Ringfencing almost upon us ?
Replies: 95
Views: 3998

Re: Ringfencing almost upon us ?

Sadly I think that Covid made ringfencing not only unavoidable but also necessary. The losses that the premiership clubs have sustained need to be financed and recouped. Even one season in the championship with less TV revenue and the potential loss in gate receipts and sponsorship revenue may well...
by h's dad
Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:23 pm
Forum: Welford Road Chit Chat
Topic: Exeter Chiefs
Replies: 203
Views: 9490

Re: Exeter Chiefs

I’ve only gone back a couple of pages and found 3 posters who obviously feel, this is a local issue, but tbh that’s not important. Just so as it’s on the record I don’t really care if I offended you or not, I’m sure you’re a big boy, a pedant, but a big boy, and are more than capable of looking aft...
by h's dad
Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:14 pm
Forum: Welford Road Chit Chat
Topic: Exeter Chiefs
Replies: 203
Views: 9490

Re: Exeter Chiefs

The issue is total hogwash, being dredged up by politically correct ninconpoops who have nothing better to do than look for anything to try and call racist. What a sad world we live in today. They should stop being daft, and just concentrate with the rugby. :smt018 :smt018 :smt018 While I agree tha...
by h's dad
Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:02 pm
Forum: Welford Road Chit Chat
Topic: Exeter Chiefs
Replies: 203
Views: 9490

Re: Exeter Chiefs

There are always 2 opinions, and I have so please don’t take a high tone with me. Yet again I cite the actions of the Washington Redskins, for those that think this is a local Devon based issue. High handed? You're presumably referring to your own words that I used. If you do some research you will...
by h's dad
Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:20 pm
Forum: Welford Road Chit Chat
Topic: Exeter Chiefs
Replies: 203
Views: 9490

Re: Exeter Chiefs

I would suggest you do a little more research, and whilst I agree with you saying it’s their choice, look at the reason why one of America’s leading sports franchises, Washington Redskins, are making changes. It may be a minority in this country but this is a global issue. If you think the two are ...
by h's dad
Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:13 pm
Forum: Welford Road Chit Chat
Topic: Exeter Chiefs
Replies: 203
Views: 9490

Re: Exeter Chiefs

Credit for these words to Annie Banaynay who has done a whole body of work on this: “Caricatures used by sports teams with “Indian” mascots contribute to the “savage” image of Native peoples and the myth that Native peoples are an ethnic group ‘frozen in history’.” I think Exeter need to take a rea...
by h's dad
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:32 am
Forum: Welford Road Chit Chat
Topic: Exeter Chiefs
Replies: 203
Views: 9490

Re: Exeter Chiefs

I think you may have missed the point, it isn’t the name chiefs that’s the main issue, it’s the using of Native Indian symbology, in their emblem, getting rid of their mascot isn’t going to change that. If I was a cynic, I would say the cost of having to rebadge, all their playing, training and lei...